Citation de Seducteur
Last weekend, he was saying that he had warned everyone that Donald Trump wouldn’t leave office voluntarily.
Why is it that everybody was so damn shocked?
When you’re talking about the institutions holding, you’re really talking about a handful of individuals who basically decided to stand up in key places, and say no. Were it not for a handful of those people, this could have gone very differently.
Our system hasn’t held. This is not a family newspaper, so we can say it: We’re fucked!
They got off on the wrong foot from their very first phone call.
Why did he hate [him] so much?
Certainly Donald Trump basically sucker-punched from literally Day One of [someone] presidency, so he wasn’t a very good ally to him. Putin was right about that.
The anecdote about Dan Coats, the Director of National Intelligence, where he is stumped and asks himself, What does Putin have on Trump? Do you have a working theory of why Trump was so in Putin’s thrall?
Peter: It’s a great unanswered question that I think we’re going to be debating for years to come. I don’t think we have a crystal clear answer. We didn’t find any evidence that would contradict Robert Mueller’s conclusion about a criminal conspiracy.
I think that’s one of the things that we’re going to be exploring for years to come.
Susan: Amazingly, despite all of the work that’s been done, despite all of the investigations, despite all the reporting, we need to know more. Even as we’re having this fucking conversation, it’s worth noting that Donald Trump’s tax returns still haven’t been made public. I think that this is why we have to have a historical inquiry about the Trump presidency. It’s a five-alarm fire for American democracy. We have to keep going back at it, and going back at it, and going back at it, to understand what really happened here.
Do you think it’s important that Trump, at some point, be indicted? For either the classified documents he stashed or for fomenting the attack ?
Peter: I think that’s one of the key debates of our era. The challenge for Merrick Garland is going to be, what is the impact on American democracy at this point? If there was reason to indict, if you were to do it, does that then discredit democracy in other places that see us therefore as just a banana republic where one party takes power and prosecutes the other party? Or does it tell half of this country that this is just political? Or, on the flip side, if you don’t hold somebody accountable, if you get away with multiple seeming violations of the law and you don’t actually do anything about it, what does that say about democracy? Does it mean that we don’t believe our own adage, that no person is above the law? I think that’s a really, really, really hard debate that goes beyond the specific statutes and subpoenas and all the stuff we’re debating right now.
Susan: I just want to underscore with an exclamation point ! that accountability is what so many people feel Trump escaped again and again and again. That is another way that the credibility of institutions suffers, not just by Trump’s direct frontal attacks on those institutions, but on the perception that the mechanisms that are in place to protect an unchecked executive somehow aren’t functioning.
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September 20, 2022